Alece, I dont remember all 18 things, but two of them stuck with me, even 15 years later. Just asking. Its impossible to please everyone. But in Argentina, where Mothers Day is in October, they also tended to recognize International Womens Day (March 8) even in church (in addition to a wide variety of other holidays Childrens Day, Grandparents Day, etc.). Saw the survey and didnt reply, but one suggestion-Please have enough for EVERY female in the ward or branch. At first I was wishing that I wasnt, but after thinking and praying about it for a few weeks and speaking with friends and family, Im rather excited about it. Personally, I go to church to learn about Jesus and Christ like attributes. I have suggested the donate-money-to-the-shelter thing for about four years now; it gets a blank stare, followed by a startled, oh! Yesterday I enjoyed another Mother's Day sacrament meeting, typical with its children's songs, a talk from a young man about how wonderful mothers are, a talk from a sister about how wonderful women are, and a tearful talk from a brother about all the incredible mothers in his life. Ill be hiding in the clerks office. I think its the best way to go. In order to equally celebrate Fatherhood , the males (12 years+) all get Nachos on Fathers Day (served up by the RS Presidency.). In Bishopric meeting this year, I quoted your little sister regarding plants. I think its terribly sad that growing up Mormon, I never heard anyone make any serious attempt to talk about Heavenly Mother on Mothers Day. Families are good about this but public acknowledgement is hard to come by. Tony, thanks! I was asked to speak 3 times on MD during my infertility phase. It will easily demonstrate the weaknesses in the position: The logic is faulty. Still, I think the flak about Sister Becks talk is nonsense. I had assumed it was a greeting card holiday of commercial origins, but it is actually (like Christmas) based on Roman pagan traditions. I love her and think she did a great job with the limited resources she had. Not necessarily mothersjust women. This talk teaches us how rearing up children in righteousness can help keep them safe in an increasingly wicked world and how what happens in the home can benefit communities and nations. She was not a perfect mother, but I loved her. Great, and I was just asked to talk on Sunday, I guess I will be very careful. No talk is necessary, but a simple acknowledgement of our love for all the women in our lives is nice. So Im on for Mothers Day and have been assigned Julie Becks talk on the history of Relief Society as topic. If you want to hear about angel mothers and perfect people, remain in the chapel. Even now, 4 years after her passing, I miss her. She is buried in the same plot as my great-grandmother as well so it was nice to be able to be there with them again. At the end of the survey there was a comments box where individuals could leave specific feedback to bishoprics that organize Mothers Day. rockpond Thanks for thinking of me, my youngest bishop son! Excuse everyone after Sacrament meeting to spend the time with their mothers. Thank you to everyone! The main message I gathered from reviewing this survey is, keep it simple, dont try tohave specific female messages during the meetings, and then serve a fun refreshment in the third hourjust because. The Mother's Day Fiasco That Changed My Perspective on Motherhood - LDS I was supposed to talk two weeks ago on the purpose of the Sacrament but ended up in surgery instead, and upon returning to church last Sunday was asked to reschedule. It is awkward for those who are NOT mothers and I don't think fathers get their due comparibly. Make it different, and they will see you are trying. I have not attending other churches that have mothers day services aimed at mothers. Our current ward celebrates Mothers Day with the obligatory talks. Yet, we have a tendency to go to extremes, particularly culturally, forgetting that we are worshiping God, and that we are not God nor expected to be God in this, our mortal state. Why in the church is there such a strong, almost secular aversion to motherhood? Cannot load blog information at this time. Mothers, we acknowledge and esteem your faith in every footstep. My preference is for a talk focusing on women of the scriptures. You wouldnt give a talk in a single adult ward about the joys of scouting. After the explanation, both seemed excited and accepted the challenge willingly. The first consideration is that you, the speaker, need to begin with your audience in mind. Sabbath Day Scriptures Scripture References Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-12 Scripture Study Resources Topical Guide, "Assembly for Worship" With that in mind, there are great ideas in this discussion thread of ways to do exactly that. No one tries to probe for subliminal meaning in the choice of Fat Boys. Dont twist the knife; let them come to you if they want it. Every year someone has to pick up the flowers for my ward. Did they not have mothers? Well at least I know what not to talk about. Well give you an honest deal! It is a simple answer, and it is trueThe most important thing a father can do for his [daughter] is to love [her] mother.'. Flowers were also given to anyone who wanted to wear one in honour of their mothers. Latter-day Saints to Attend Sacrament Meeting Only on Christmas Day Church Newsroom November 10, 2022 Church The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has. We speak about it nearly every Sunday. What does that say about us as a people? We all do., The relationship between mothers and daughters is at the heart of this talk from Elder Ballard. Of Good Cheer: The Most Motherly Mother's Day | Meridian Magazine When chocolate is handed out, our children end up begging for it but its the one day I wont share. All
Aleah Ingram May 3, 2021 Entertainment. My kids are too old for primary and dont go to church anyway (and my mother died when my youngest was 2 yrs old), so I have no reason to go and hear all about how perfect someone else is, or that I should have been perfect, or the lie that all of us mothers are perfect. As I journey on my way, I did this for five years and the sisters seemed to enjoy sitting, chatting, and not having a child demanding a bit of their pie. More than at any time in the history of the world, we need mothers who know. But alas, Mother's Day 11 years ago will forever be known as the day I landed face down on the floor of the chapel, on top of my 3-year-old, in the middle of sacrament meeting, with my skirt flung over my head. Mother's Day: My talk | Times & Seasons The talks are mostly bearable (though no picnic), but the worst is when the youth would spread out in search of women who were not holding whatever flower or chocolate. President Hinckley addressed all the women of the Church and thanked them for all the work they do in their families, congregations, and communities. Thank you. And, as your mother, I will miss the delicious pie during a relaxing third hour of church. Nothanks to my back problems got to fly non-stop from Atlanta to Seattle. rockpond Teach Me to Walk in the Light - Mother's Day Song If you want to hear from real women who haveread scriptures andheld FHEand family prayer, but whose son is in jail or whose 16-year-old daughter is pregnant or whose husband has left her, then you should meet in the cultural hall. Although with good intentions, speakers usually put mothers and motherhood on a pedestal ("Mothers are loving and caring and naturally nurturing", "A mother's love is the closest thing to Christlike love on earth", "No mother is perfect, except my mom, who is literally an . The Damage of Mormon Mother's Day Myths - Zelophehad's Daughters Watch This Touching LDS Mother's Day Medley | LDS Daily Alece, I also love CS Lewis, and agree that we should look to higher ground in our mortal journey. For sacrament meeting, we can give the men a sternly worded warning about the danger of tehpernogriffiez. Being Both a Disciple & a Daughter: Balancing Formality in Prayer. This is brilliant, Mark. This has been a big concern for me, as there are many women in the ward who are very sensitive to the Perfect Mother talks, and I didnt want to heap on to their burdens. The second is about a mother who diligently loved her son as he struggled with same-sex attraction and labored him through his despair. Questions and Answers about the Sacrament, Remember Jesus Christ during the Sacrament, The Restoration of the Sacrament (Part1: Loss and Christian Reformations), The Restoration of the Sacrament (Part2: A New and Ancient Covenant), Sharing Time: Be Grateful for the Sacrament, Viewpoint: The Sacred Ordinance of the Sacrament, Young Men, Teach about the Sacrament, Brother Beck Says. Women are saved in child bearing is good as always. It very gently re-addressed several of the points that were flying in the newspapers and throughout the church in the Mothers Who Know backlash. Not within an hour of reading this post did I get a call from a member of our bishopric asking me to speak on Sunday. Crowd-sourcing request each year when I plan the Mother's Day sacrament meeting I feel an extra bit of pressure to make it special for our wives and mothers. That in no way shape or form precludes me from looking to Christ/HF/HM for ideals. All my daily tasks fulfilling, I don't understand it, but it is your logic. Any Advice? It might be that it was a holiday originally conceived by the US Socialist Party and propagated by the Soviets. The responsibility mothers have today has never required more vigilance. MD really is a no-win. I went to Sac. Home & Family. I dont envy you people who have been called togive talksnext week. In this case it will likely be mothers, and the Primary kids will sing, too. I hope none of you mind if I quote from this. I must let my voice be heard, I was dreading it, but I was rescued by my sister coming to town for the next 3 days yayyyy. The speakers were: 70-year-old married sister w/ no children; mid-30s sister who works full-time, dh is the stay-at-home parent, and theyve adopted 2 children through the foster care system; and a single sister. Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. lol. ( Bonus: You get to visit Relief Society and YW! It would be much easier for me to hear mothers day talks if they were real instead of ideal, though Id prefer a good sermon on Christ, instead. Support Epic Family Fun! Have a variety of ages speak on ideas or what they've done to help their mothers and ways they've stayed close to their mothers. May 6, 2017
Usually chocolate, a plant or flower. Mark, very good advice IMO. But I was not a mother, in spite of my tears and pleadings with the Lord. My own dear mother, long since gone to her reward, summed up the essence of the perfect Mothers Day talk quite nicely. 41 Fear not, little children, for you are mine, and I have overcome the world, and you are of them that my Father hath given me; 42 And none of them that my Father hath given me shall be lost.. The music . I just spent two hours reading all the comments, viewing the video mentioned in #90, and taking notes. The Primary president asked him, as Chorister, to write a new song for the kids to sing in sacrament meeting on Mother's Day. Idealsno, no maam not for me. Im sort of hoping that the person before me goes too long and I have to wrap up with my testimony. Trust her. They always see what they havent done instead of what they have because they are constantly reminded of what they should be doing. When mothers know who they are and who God is and have made covenants with Him, they will have great power and influence for good on their children.. She loved us unconditionally heart and soul. I dont know how that worked out for him. Less than nothing because the message of such a gift is that the person is not important. Great post, Mark! mothers day Archives - LDS Daily Reading over those messages, it is hard to come up with any form of consensus other than, everyone has a different opinion. What does this mean about women? Identifying ideals is somehow so treacherous for the psyches of women that that must never be mentioned? Required fields are marked *. Elder Perry uses personal stories and memories of his own mother to illustrate the importance of teaching the gospel inside the home. Do other Christian women struggle with church-going on this day? Too much idealism masks reality and can quickly become propaganda and lies. She only did half the things a good mother would have done. I just dont like when they push the plant on me after Ive politely declined it. Not an official website of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Can they not celebrate their own mothers? Is this our Sharon Haynie from DN branch? Nice meeting. The Spirits constant companionship is one of the greatest gifts of mortality. Nuts. They can eat whatever they want, in fact. Focus on womanhood and examples of strong women, not on a perfect homemaker mother. Sacrament meeting is a time for us to renew our covenants, it is a sacred ordinance. After His Resurrection, He instituted the sacrament among the Nephites (see 3Nephi 18:111). My own father would probably appreciate a plant, but fortunately he enjoys cookies too. Gag. Alece 100 it is a bit rich for you to interpret that your comment and that quote by Lewis mean the same thing. What My Son Heard on Mother's Day - LDS Women Project (i.e. From all accounts, her talk was very well received. An ideal is fine to have in your own life, but imo it is dangerous to attempt to have one for a worldwide religious organization. Honest! Isnt it reasonable to think that Abe is trying a little too hard, and might be overcompensating for something? It is the essence of who we are as women. Being Mother's Day, that meant the soft seats up front were filled with grandmothers and other maternal figures visiting for the weekend, which meant latecomers like the Lemons got metal seats in the back this week. The deacons hand out small potted plants to all women 12+ years, then the sisters eat cake in Relief Society (served up by the RS presidency.). Our current Bishop decided not to do anything for mothers day. You can still give the women the day off. Geesh! #28 Love the song choice of I Have Work Enough To Do as a tribute. 2) If your outfit doesnt match, no one who matters will notice. What is the trigger to close the thread? I chuckled, but was not surprised when I saw that chocolate was the most popular! For the third verse, I composed a counterpoint for the choir to sing while the kids sang the melody. I meant an ideal not an idea! Check out our selection of LDS church programs for baptisms, church activities, and sacrament meetings. Only for the second time he also included a segment about how if his wife was a better homemaker maybe his kids wouldnt have such screwed up lives. Even though Mothers Day is now a reasonably happy day for me personally, I still find that my mind is focused on how other women in my ward might be experiencing it. I know my own mother dislikes being called a good mother because she feels so awful about how she raised us from her perspective. Variations included a verse for when mommy comes home stoned, with descriptions of bratty violent Mormon children and a terrible version only whispered with stifled giggles including titillating, lolita overtones. And yeah, audience is important. This has been a great reminder to be sensitive to all in the congregation with the Holy Ghost as a guide. Now they never had fought, yet they did not fear death; and they did think more upon the liberty of their fathers than they did upon their . Im the counselor in charge of calling speakers for Mothers Day. It was an emotional rollercoaster of raised hopes and disappointments. Submitting to the will of the Father, He suffered more than we can comprehend: Blood [came] from every pore, so great [was] his anguish for the wickedness and the abominations of his people (Mosiah 3:7). Is it callender time, number of posts, how irritated the host is with the comments! Aleah is a graduate of Southern Virginia University, where she studied English, Creative Writing, and Dance. Just sharing those times with women in the scriptures and what we can learn from them - and NOT have a focus on mothers. Someone explain this. Mother's Day: My talk by Kaimi Wenger May 5, 2009 23 Comments It's hard to strike the right balance, between affirming Moms who really need to be told that they made a good decision; and letting others (especially women) know that they're okay, too. 18 Powerful LDS Scriptures on Mothers | Read Them All Here Where everyone else is happy and interested in celebrating motherhood - those terrible males and those rancorous children in particular - they need to be denied for "me" and "what I want". When her dad found out that there was a whole lottashakin goin on without him, he summarily divorced his adulterous wife and took the children to live with him. Most detested thing, 3rd hour chatting and eating. Ive decided to speak on how motherhood allows me to develop Christlike attributes (knowledge, patience, temperance, etcref 1 Peter 1:4-8) through daily struggles and reliance on the atonement and then finish with how wonderful it is that mother is only one of the facets of who we are as we strive to become strong women of God. Id like to see the swords beaten into plow shares this mothers day And for once ( just once) the SAHM vs working mom verbal cat claws retracted. The first one we did was a modified version of "Teacher Do You Love Me". Mother's Day Sacrament Mtg - Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board I had some ideas but didn't want to repeat anything that had already been done from the Primary. May your prayers be answered and your hopes and dreams become realities.. I love that song but our ward music coordinator has musical numbers lined up already. If it is unique to us, I wonder why we have a corner on the Mothers Day anxiety market. My mother died just a little less than a year ago, and I find that I never appreciated Mothers Day at all until now that my mother is gone. Be patient with her imperfections, for she has them. Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009. Mothers Day theme, is the spirit is trying to witness to us at what a dumb idea it is. He discussed the tendency of many women to feel like failures and shared ways to overcome it. Some years it gets a nod, other years the talks are unrelated. Avoid speaking of angel mothers. Just after she became a beehive, her mother had an affair. I dont want to hear Sister Becks controversial mothers who know talk, or president bensons talk come home talk. Or should we just not celebrate anything or any role that a person may fulfill in life? Well we could have it like the Sacrament Meetings for Father's Day and have it be your usual every Sunday meeting and not even talk about women or mothers. May the blessings of heaven rest upon you. To the light the lost ones leading, I know that traditionally it has been men and children who honor mothers. . A BIGTHANK YOU to Heather Mecham for compiling all the results from this survey. Watching the Primary children singing to their mothers in Sacrament meeting was the hardest. I dont think it would occur to anyone to give a man a plant for Fathers Day *, but its very common to give women plants for Mothers Day. It was my missionary farewell, back when such things were acceptable. In simple terms his philosophy was that the church is not true because it is madeconsists of people who are imperfect and therefore not always true to all of the ideals taught. I do think a lot of Mormon women enjoy talks that validate their efforts at motherhood, and I think some of these talks get interpreted as angel mother talks when theyre really not. She talked about how when she was single she was very shallow, only cared about clothes and makeup and boys, didnt prepare herself spiritually, didnt have much of a testimony, and then upon marrying found herself extremely immature and woefully unprepared to be a spiritual leader in her home. iPad. Its hard to please everyone. Mother's Day Singing Time Idea. Another angle in this specific holidayhas been brewing for a while. Especially for those women that aren't mothersbut, a big but, these women are mothers to villages, pets, and extended family all the time! Their talks often included poems about the immeasurable amount of crap mothers had to deal with. Latter Day Arrangements is a sheet music resource for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other Christians. Holidays: Mother's Day | Little LDS Ideas Nice post Mark, I think we do need to be careful about how we say some of the things we do in church, and elsewhere. Im catching up on the comments, but Kristines suggestion in #72 is perfect. Alece, its usually when the admins sense that the conversation is no longer productive, or when we dont have time or patience to keep monitoring the thread. I can only pray no one will take offense, as I certainly never mean any offense. I love your idea of wearing different color of flowers. Why was she an ideal? 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We like to celebrate mothers in the Church and we like to ignore fatherhood. Now we have a tradition that during the last ten minutes of priesthood meeting, they gather all the classes from deacons to high priests together in the multi-purpose room and present them with Fat Boy ice cream sandwiches. Serious question for everyone, just out of true curiosity: How many of these horror stories happened in the last five years? But one thing is for sure, Ill be drawing on much of this. What do you think should be handed out for Mothers Day? Can anyone say overdone? I spoke about her one year. And, invariably, as soon as I would send one on his way, Im not a mother, thank you, another would pop up at my elbow, dutifully, kindly twisting the knife. first adult speaker: Motherhood is like a roller coaster: there are lots of ups and downs, and sometimes you just have to close your eyes and scream., second adult speaker, quoting a Native American proverb: The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears., benediction, by a former Bishop: Heavenly Father, we speak with thee every day, and we look forward to the day when we can renew our relationship with Heavenly Mother.. Just plant a tree and name it after our mothers! Julie B. Beck reminds women what it means to be a mother who knows listing a number of attributes, including the principles of bearing children, honoring sacred covenants, nurturing others, doing less, teaching, and leading. The first speaker was a single father, then the bishop spoke, then the stake president spoke. I have been avoiding the mother's day sacrament meeting for the last couple of years. I recommend that you take President Eyrings approach and assume that the women to whom you are speaking are doing their best, but that often their very best means just barely hanging on. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/04/daughters-of-god?lang=eng, Ray (#58) Steve Ps post is evidence that a talk from 2007 which has been essentially corrected is still being recycled today. XD. If my kids are with me on MD I go, but FD is just too painful. In my home ward, we once had a Mothers Day Sacrament Meeting the topic of which was the priesthood. Im finding actual motherhood so exhausting that I just cant bear to hear about angel mothers right now. After living with me for almost 17 years, hed better get it right! It hits pretty close because Im one of those lucky people who get to speak on Mothers Day this year. Today the sacrament is an ordinance in which Church members partake of bread and water in remembrance of Jesus Christs atoning sacrifice. Motherhood as a path to choose to be a better disciple of Christ by caring for those Christ lives.feed my sheep, etc. Those who are not disciples of Christ or do not have faith will find it painful to see the faith of others; thus no one should celebrate Christmas openly. This talk by Sheri Dew focuses on how motherhood is for all women, regardless if they have children or not.